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Muslih Aling
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« on: November 09, 2008, 09:30:58 PM »

nowadays,in dikir barat cd's and casets,we will found the dikir barat songs with guitars and drums etc..most of the songs use the modern music instruments-even the juara songs...

what i want to mention here is,are we about to change the nature of dikir barat? from using the rebana,gong,romba etc,to the modern music instrument..try to think, in the future,how will our children will define the dikir barat?

the certain famous dikir barat singers may use the modern instrument in their song, no objection at all because their preference cant be denied by anyone,since it is their right,but, considering the pureness and maturity of the original dikir barat nature should be put in attention too.

as we know,once changes was made,the next changes will come to existence..we already change it in the firs place,why cant we change it once more..--maybe this situation will happen in the furture..and dont be suprised if soon,the nature of dikir barat change totally..the only thing left was the name...

as the people who concern about the responsibilities of the art,we should at least support the original theme of dikir barat and maintain it forever and ever...
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2008, 11:23:42 PM »

payah nok tafsir engrih muslih ni..
aduh..  Huh
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2008, 11:57:13 PM »

its happening in Singapore......dikir barat concept salsa,latin,etc....the art itself are not preserve by the federation dikir barat of Singapore. Their role as a federation dikir barat is a question mark to us. But their job is maintain a 'certain' group to be on top of the rest.
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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2008, 12:07:44 AM »

in my personal oppinion,the singers or any dikir barat groups may use the modern instrument or use any modern or classic concept in their songs, but make an exception of using the dikir barat name..

maybe lagu daerah can be used.previously,the daerah songs were so many in kelantan,but,at that time,all people know how to differentiate the daerah song and the dikir barat song..nowadays,the image and identity of the daerah song and dikir barat song were mixing each other..

to preserve the identity of the dikir barat-(even we know,dikir barat already been altered compared to the original form during the aerly ages of the coming of the dikir barat to kelantan/malaysia),at least we maintain the current image of dikir barat,before the latest change been made..

'majulah seni budaya bangsa'
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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2008, 12:25:25 AM »

Muslih my friend,

Singapore dikir barat can still play a latin,salsa,indian,etc song using the basic instrument. but the problem is that some idiot sitting at the federation do nothing to draw the line. i can say that  only abt 30% of singapore dikir barat group preserve the basic and foundation of Dikir Barat. There rest have little knowledge and poor foundation on Dikir Barat.

Example : National Level which just ended yesterday.

Briefing clearly says that only basic dikir barat instrument are to be use in the performance.
But there are one group which i THINK & HEAR play a cow bell as a subtitute to canang. Do they understand what are the basic instrument is? As a 'punishment' , they get top spot(1st) in the national competition.
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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2008, 02:10:51 AM »

sincerely,i still in process of understanding the nature of dikir barat in singapore,if like you have said,the federation was the factor of the damages..what can be said..

this is happened because the person who hold the responsibility to preserve and maintain the original dikir barat,at least from additional images that the irresponsible group want to associate with,when the person who is in the condition of ignorance,teh effect will be like that..

my friend azam,you maybe so frustrated with the federation-it shows that your feeling of maintaning the pureness of dikir barat in your country,i strongly suggest u to try to be the important person in the federation to ensure,the image of dikir barat will remain safe.whwn the ignorance person hold the position,maybe soon,singapore will come out with dikir hip hop maybe..hehe..just joking

for singapore,i respect the group which voluntarily come to malaysia to find the source of dikir barat knowledge, because nowadays,even in kelantan,the people who have the courage to speak for the dikir barat members didint do that,but,just looking to hole to make money..

for azam,be the pioneer for the group who keep and preserve the dikir barat originality.
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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2008, 02:37:58 AM »

sincerely,i still in process of understanding the nature of dikir barat in singapore,if like you have said,the federation was the factor of the damages..what can be said..

this is happened because the person who hold the responsibility to preserve and maintain the original dikir barat,at least from additional images that the irresponsible group want to associate with,when the person who is in the condition of ignorance,teh effect will be like that..

my friend azam,you maybe so frustrated with the federation-it shows that your feeling of maintaning the pureness of dikir barat in your country,i strongly suggest u to try to be the important person in the federation to ensure,the image of dikir barat will remain safe.whwn the ignorance person hold the position,maybe soon,singapore will come out with dikir hip hop maybe..hehe..just joking

for singapore,i respect the group which voluntarily come to malaysia to find the source of dikir barat knowledge, because nowadays,even in kelantan,the people who have the courage to speak for the dikir barat members didint do that,but,just looking to hole to make money..

for azam,be the pioneer for the group who keep and preserve the dikir barat originality.

Insya Allah, kumpulan Andika dan beberapa kumpulan yg sewaktu dengan kita akan kekalkan basic & keaslian dikir barat.

Sorry i type in malay...hehe
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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2008, 06:36:51 AM »

with the good intention..what we are doing is not contadict with shariah-our intention will be considered as ibadah..may Allah bless us with His Rahmah and Barkah..
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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2009, 08:43:28 PM »

mr azam...do you have the record of dikir barat with the other theme...salsa..latin etc??
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« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2009, 09:15:44 PM »

oo...dikir barat poco-poco dont have?haha i spik engres...wat a wandeful haha
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« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2009, 11:44:14 PM »

baca buleh tp nk palu xleh... Sad Sad Sad
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« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2009, 02:44:09 AM »

oo...dikir barat poco-poco dont have?haha i spik engres...wat a wandeful haha

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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2009, 06:54:42 AM »

i think new instrument can be added,
but if we want to make sure our dikir still orignal, we must still carry on ori instrument in dikir barat
just for moladious.
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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2010, 04:36:46 AM »

changing and development always moving around the clock, things are not subjected to stood still as it is for a long time but for something it is just not right to be develop in such way that might change the originality of its identity. misleading the others of knowing the reality is the biggest crime in life, dikir barat or what ever traditional culture must not in anyway changed in its originality of the way its being played and what being use to performed it such as the musical instrument. adding some new tunes to the music might grab some attention but like bro azam said using cow bell is unacceptable, it may sound alike but not the same. the basic instrument cannot be change but we may add some other tunes to make it more merrier for the audience but will not replace the core instrument in anyway. some people just want to be ignorance because they got something from it, we have people that are over creative who always do vandal for something that is already good as it is. taking advantage on the purity of culture is unacceptable. we should tell those vandals... GO TO SCHOOL.
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